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    productivity formula ?

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    Post  govnjivko Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:24 pm

    First of all, sorry for my bad English
    Have to thought about changing a production formula a bit?
    I will try to show problem in my example:
    I had q1 gift company. My employees made ~20 gifts and used ~40 units of diamonds(skill 4)

    Now, i have q3 gifts company. Worker's production is now ~13, but he hasn't used 40 units of raw, but only 13 and made 13/6 products

    lets say i sell q1 gifts for 5 units of local currency, and i buy raw material for 0.5
    my income from one worker is 5*20-40*0.5 = 100 - 20 = 80. If you multiply it with 10 ...

    if i sell q3 gifts for 30 units of currency:
    30*2-13*0.5 = 60 - 6.5 ~ 55 from one worker affraid


    something just ain't right here Smile
    Did i missed something?
    again, sorry for my bad english


    edit: at least downgrade my company back to q1 Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Febo. Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:00 pm

    i bet there is soem mistake in calculating production of 1 worker. I might try to remember what i will do tomorow in Q1 and day after tomorow in Q3 company. i hope i willfind 2 with same number of workers.
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    Post  TEObest1 Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:26 am

    Singed! Wink
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    Post  govnjivko Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:43 am

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    Post  kre5o Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:45 am

    its simple. One production point costs/is 1 raw, it has been so and it will be so in the future, whats strange in that????
    Also why would you in hell sell so cheap q3 products? Your calculations are really wrong.
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    Post  govnjivko Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:53 pm

    i don't want cheap products, but with this formula, they are insanely expensive, bisides that, raw material usage is decreased. That can be problem in future
    Where did i make mistake in my calculations?
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    Post  Febo. Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:02 am

    probably at start. i am half way there to prowe it. yesterday worked in Q1 company, todaywillfind Q3 with 6 workers.
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    Post  Febo. Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:57 am

    actualy you were right

    Bouth companies had same number of employes i had same wellnes and 1 day diference with work skill, so should be exact.
    Q1 company produce 27 pp using 27 RAW and make 13.5 Q1 Gifts
    Q3 company produce 9 pp using 9 RAW and make 1.5 Q3 Gift


    well as you see, in Q1 you get a bit expenciver 13.5 wellnes in q3 you get a bit cheaper 4.5 wellens. but you can use just 10 Gifts/day, so if you will want more then 10 wellens from Gifts you will have to use expenciver gifts.

    In any case 1Q3 gift can not be cheaper then 3 Q1 Gifts! Should be 2-3 times expenciver. depending of cost of RAW and diference between Q1 and Q3 sallaries.

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    Post  kre5o Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:36 am

    oh you were worried about more resources spend in low q companies. Don't worry about that, it won't make low q companies less profitable. As you realized high q products require more productivity/resources per item but it has also lower productivity per worker. You calculated that all in low skill, high q companies require high skill workers to be more profitable, in vpop atm there aren't any high skill ppl (skill 8+). The formula is just fine as it is. Low q products are made fast and cheap, high q made slow and expensive - the way it should be.
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    Post  Febo. Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:07 am

    i think he was worried, that he produce less wellnes from Gifts in Q3 company then from Q1 company. But as i stated, there is limit of using Gift per day. so whoever will want to gain 50 wellens every day will have to pay much more.
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    Post  Awsum Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:45 pm

    A Q3 item is worth 3 * 3 = 9x the cost of a Q1 item. Why? It costs:
    3x as many production points to produce, making it 3x.
    However, there is also that 1/3 multiplier on the productivity formula, making it another 3x as expensive.

    3 * 3 = 9, if you're selling Q1 for 5, then Q3 should be 45 or higher.
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    Post  govnjivko Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:47 am

    Higher quality company is using less raw material. isn't it strange? This will make raw comapnies not so needed in future
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    Post  Jacce Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:58 pm

    Febo. wrote:probably at start. i am half way there to prowe it. yesterday worked in Q1 company, todaywillfind Q3 with 6 workers.

    You could also use http://vpopulus.tk/production Wink

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